EL022 ELECTRICAL
I have recently joined the ranks of Velo owners having aquired a Venom first
registered Nov 1962 (although the numbers show that engine and frame were built
in1960.The electrics are 6v-the dynamo has D6V stamped on the end.According to
information gleaned elsewhere in Q and A this would indicate a60w output.However,
the ammeter shows a discharge of a couple of amps or so with the lights on and a
charge of about 4 amps with them off.The bike had stood for about 18 months
before I bought it and the battery was low on charge. The bike was extensively
restored 4 yrs ago apart from the bottom end which was soundand a new battery
fitted along with the VOC toothed belt conversion for the dynamo.The dyno
sprocket has 32 teeth i.e. 1.25/1 ratio.Is this acceptable or could the higher
running speed be causing a problem in the charging circuit?
Otherwise the bike looks and goes superbly-looking forward to the better
weather. - Dave Disney 19/1/2007
The higher running speed shouldn't cause a problem.
In effect you are driving the dynamo about 14% faster than standard.
So when the engine is revving at 5,500 the dynamo is doing 5,500 x 1.25 rather
than 5,500 x 1.1. But on a standard bike it was designed to survive up to 6,500
x 1.1 or more anyway.
Unless you hold the engine revs above 6,000 the dynamo still isn't doing more
than it was designed for.
Even if it was, it would probably only risk causing mechanical damage to the
armature, not electrical problems.
It does sound as though your dynamo is not producing its full power.
A good 60w dynamo without lights on and with a low battery should show a charge
of about 8 or 9 amps at medium revs.
With the headlight (35w bulb) and tail-light and speedo light on this would drop
to about 2 to 3 amps.
If someone has put in a 45w bulb then maybe only 1 amp at medium revs.
Of course if the battery is fully charged then the ammeter should show only
about half an amp because all the dynamo is being asked to do is balance the
load of the lights and keep the battery topped up.
One useful test of a good charging setup is if the ammeter is showing the dynamo
just nicely balancing the lights and your bike has the stoplight and/or horn
connected directly to the battery (like as standard) and not through the
ammeter, then press the horn and/or brake pedal and the extra load should make
the ammeter jump up a couple of amps as the dynamo gives its last few watts to
balance the extra load.
It seems your dynamo can only produce about 24 watts, so shows only 4 amps
charge with no load other than a battery that needs a charge, and minus 2 with a
lighting load of about 40 watts.
It could be the brushes are worn or stuck, or the commutator is very dirty, or
the armature has a defective winding, or the voltage regulator is faulty or
needs adjusting. - TW 19/1/2007
Was out on the bike the other day(bone dry roads/lovely sunshine).Noticed that the charge rate was getting better,even to the stage where the charge was neutral/slightly positive when the headlight(35w) was on.Dabbing the rear brake caused a charge increase.I have done nothing to the set up since we last spoke except loosen the dynamo drive belt-Ithought that it was too tight.Maybe there was muck on the comm.. which has now worn off(the previous owner did 60 mls in nearly 4 yrs)or ,and this is something I have recently thought about,maybe the armature had lost some of its residual magnetism and this has been restored with use-I have done 200 mls in the past month.Hence,since it does not now appear to be broken I’m not going to fix it!Thanks for your help and advice. - Dave Disney 8/2/2007
Sounds like you've got a good, self-repairing, Venom.
The armature doesn't have any magnetism, only the field coil pole piece, and
that needs only a tiny bit since it is an electro-magnet so I think you may well
be right - just the brushes getting back in contact. - TW 8/2/2007